I got to go to a lot of vineyards, but when I was young I didn’t have much money. Even while living in Italy, Spain was always such a go-to because they produce extraordinary wines and they’re not expensive. So I became very accustomed to Rioja. I also loved Chiantis and super Tuscans. Obviously the amazing Brunellos and Barbarescos and Barolos were extraordinary, but those were more of what I got when I was at these big dinner tables with all of these cool, fancy people. But on my own, I had to source the wines that weren't so expensive. I just got lucky.