Which younger rappers have technical skills that you admire? Joyner Lucas, Kendrick, J. Cole, Big Sean — they’re super complex but also digestible. One of the things that’s so interesting to me about Kendrick is the way he approaches a beat and the pockets he chooses. Tech N9ne is great at that too. They’ll both hit these weird fucking pockets.

I mention Kendrick and Cole a lot, I know they are not kids coming up anymore but they came after us but they’ve studied all the greats and you can tell because it goes into their pen.